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  • #8459
    Dianedebuda
    dianedebuda
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    Still experimenting.  Have pool with a sloped (fill dirt) side and one end on a contoured Terrain created with nested Plateaus.  Other side of pool will be at house level & other end will have a retaining wall for lower level lawn.  Closest I’ve been able to come so far to getting what I want is to use a roof as basis for the sloped area.  I’ve tried embeded Plateaus but just can’t get as close.  No luck with Hills/Berms/Trenches.  Know almost nothing about Surfaces & had a real mess when I tried them.  Any better ideas with tools available to PA?

    Wanted to load 4 or 5 jpgs, but limited to 1 or is it 2 !?!?  Grrrr.  Think Soapbox & dirty words… Have no idea how this is going to post. 🙂

     

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    #8846
    Gowsican
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    using the surface command would be the best option.  after you select the surface command, you would trace over the pool then right click and select finish, A “Define  Surface” panel will pop up then you would type in the values you need in the “Upper Point”, “Lower Point” and what value you want in the “Slope Value”.  there are two ways you can curve a surface; (i will post this in multiple comments so that I can attach a picture file along with each). also the link below shows, how to use surface command.
    https://www.cadsoft.com/surfaces/
    option: 1turn ortho off and trace the shape you want.  
    option: 2draw the overall shape then select the corner you wanted to be curved, right click–> surface command –>Add Surface Node. after you have added the node  you can then while the surface is still selected right click –>Curve

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    #8813
    Gowsican
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    option: 1turn ortho off and trace the shape you want.  

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    #8787
    Gowsican
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    option: 2draw the overall shape then select the corner you wanted to be curved, right click–> surface command –>Add Surface Node. after you have added the node  you can then while the surface is still selected right click –>Curve
     

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    #8779
    Dianedebuda
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    Didn’t know how attachments/pics worked on my original post, so this time showing the jpg that I’d attached previously.
    Had seen the Surface video & that’s why I mentioned trying it.  But it’s good that you linked to it in case I hadn’t seen it.  Just really mucked up on my first Surface try.  Figured if I could show close to what I was aiming for, someone could point me in the right direction.
    Ok, drew the surface and was able to make the curve.  But slope direction should change as it goes around the curve.  Can a single surface do this or do I need to make separate ones for the side & end rectangles and a jillion wedges for the curves? Separate drawings or can a single Surface be subdivided?
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    And how do you specify elevation for a Surface?  Don’t see an Elevate command.
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    This sure feels like a better direction to take than using a roof 🙂  Thanks
     
     
     

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    #8771
    Gowsican
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    your welcome. yes, a single Surface should be able to do it. if you had noticed the arrow on the surface command; that lets you change the slope direction. you can select the “Surface” then stretch/move the arrow to get the slope direction you want or you can select the Surface –> right click –> properties –> Surface Commands –> stretch Arrow.
    I don’t think you can subdivide a Surface but you can use the “cut opening” to get a similar effect. select the Surface –> right click –> cut opening
    with regards to “Elevate” command; you would need to adjust the values in “Lower Point” and “Upper Point” found under define Surface to actually elevate a surface up or down. select the Surface –> right click –> properties –> Surface Commands –> Define Surface

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    #8752
    Dianedebuda
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    I thought the slope change was for the entired Surface.  Not at computer to try at the moment, but I don’t remember seeing how to change the slope for just a section of the Surface. The slope of one end is a full 90° different from the other end.
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    Lower point as Elevation.  Duh.  Sometimes it’s so obvious.
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    Think that I recall that there was a “convert to Surface” command for the Roof.  May have to try that.

    #8743
    Jkzimm
    jkzimm
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    Diane,
    You can add different hieght plateaus to get a more gradual slope. 
    1 in this image goes around and raises the whole area 5′. This area is the raised but level. Pool sits on low right 90 deg corner.
    The balance of the area to the ‘left’ is gradually sloped by adding 3 – 1′ high plateaus. A large one running over terrian on top and left (they all must),
    Inside of the large one is a second and third one, the third forming the highest point which in this case make the final gradual slope to an upper level plane.
    All of the smaller 3 must nest inside each other and all 3 nest inside the large 5′.
    You simple move the nested edges to get the slope looking like you need it.
     
    Jack
    zimmerdesign.com
     

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    #8736
    Dianedebuda
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    I know we talked about this via email before I got my login here.  I tried it, but just didn’t like the results.  I’ve got a bunch of nested plateaus that I like and the pool area cuts across a couple of them.  Adjusting those plateaus to accomodate the “pool” ones just didn’t look good and added slopes where I didn’t want them.
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    I think the Surface is my way to go at this point if I can get a handle on how to manipulate it for the changing slope direction.  Too bad it can’t be tagged as a Terrain element so that putting a paver path across it would be easy. Or better yet, wish there was an actual Terrain Slope element that could be drawn with borders for situations like this.  It’s not like it’s a one-of-a-kind landscaping feature.
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    Thanks for taking the time to visit about it.

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    #8730
    Dianedebuda
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    Post 1 of 2: Converted roof to Surfaces.  As I kind of guessed, it was split into 2 pieces with a jillion wedges for the curve.

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    #8698
    Dianedebuda
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    Post 2 of 2: Roof version on top, Surfaces version on bottom.
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    Interesting that the same material was selected for the Surfaces as for the Roof, but they look quite different.

    #8697
    Dianedebuda
    dianedebuda
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    Ok, I lied.  The Roof version had Grass 2 and the Surfaces version had Grass 1.  Look same when I changed the Surfaces.

    #8696
    Dianedebuda
    dianedebuda
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    When I changed Materials, not Sufaces of course.  Soapbox time about lack of edits. 🙁

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