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Allan Chesney
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« on: May 24, 2012, 03:00:50 AM »

A couple of questions - just to make sure it is not me going mad:

If a new location has been created on the Model, updating the Smartview will still not show the elements on the new location - is this correct? Is the only solution to delete the original Smartview and create a new one?

If a Hatch is entered on the Model, switching to Patterned view in the model, or in Smartview during import, causes all other locations apart from Ground Floor to be lost.  Is this correct?
I have repeated this severeal times and if Patterned View is selected, only the Ground Floor Location is transferred, or if Smatview is updated with Patterned View, all locations except Ground Floor are deleted from the Worksheet. See image. It works perfectly in wireframe view.
(EDIT: Sorry can't post image - "folder full" - has anyone reported this issue?)

Obvious solution to both questions is to define a new view to pick up new locations, insert in wireframe mode and add patterns again in the Worksheet. Surely this should not be necessary though - or am I just doing something wrong?  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2012, 04:20:48 AM »

G'day Allan!
Early start tomorrow so I'm winding down before I go mad too.
Tried to Redefine a worksheet, changed to Patterned View, preview looked exactly as I expected but once it was on the sheet . . . . no hatching at all.
Now to see if I can post 2 jpg's . .
no such luck - upload folder is full

/begin conspiracy theory
They've moved all the free space to the new location to minimise the workload on the weekend
/end conspiracy theory

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« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2012, 04:39:19 AM »

Hi Merv,

So it looks like my second issue may be correct.

What about the first one - that a new location added to the model will not appear with a Smartview Update or Redefine? (or will that 'wind you back up' again?  Wink )

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« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2012, 06:27:57 AM »

Not repeating the issue here.

I insert a smartview. I go back to model view, I insert a wall on the second floor. I go back to worksheet, select the smartview, hit the redefine button and add the 2nd floor visibility. Click update and both locations show.
I insert a second view of a plan view no hatch. I then redefine the smartview and switch it to a hatch pattern view, hit update and it shows the hatch.

What are you doing different from the steps listed above.

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« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2012, 08:10:50 AM »

The folder size for uploads has now been increased, you can upload attachments again.
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« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2012, 09:09:57 AM »

Update of smart view after creating a new location works for both a plan view and a section.

What type of view are you updating after adding a new location Allan?

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« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2012, 11:06:25 AM »

Hi Chantale and Jack,

I have now attached the image showing the Hatch issue I had. Hatch shows in Model view in Patterned mode and in Smartview window in Patterned mode but disappears in the Worksheet and takes all other locations with it except the Ground Floor. This happens on a new insert or an update.
If I turn back to wireframe and Update or insert a new view, it all works OK.

The issue with the new location came about from the fact that I wanted to hide a Step (single Stair)but keep the sloping handrail. I turned off the Step in View Filter but lost the Ramp also obviously. So I created a new location for the Ramp and moved the ramp to that location, leaving the Step on the Ground Floor turned off. When I updated the Smartview there was no Ramp and it WAS turned on, being clearly visible in Model view. It did this repeatedly until I deleted the Smartview from the Worksheet and created a new one - so that is OK now.

As far as my steps are concerned I can't be sure about this one:
hit the redefine button and add the 2nd floor visibility.
I take it from this comment that, even though the visibility of the new Location is 'on' in the model, you have to turn it on also in the Redefine. I can only assume I did not do that, just presuming that if it was on in the model and I was updating, then it would know it was on, and display it. Obviously not so that was presumably the problem.

I have just tried the Hatch issue again on a NEW Worksheet using the following steps:

1. On Model view display in Patterned mode - Hatch is visible in the model.

2. Define Smartview and switch to Patterned mode - Hatch becomes visible in the Smatview window.

3. Insert onto New worksheet - no hatch patterns that were on the Ground Floor appear and all other elements not on the Ground floor disappear.

4. Define Smarview again in Wireframe mode and everything inserts (except the hatch of course).

The image below was done before, but the results in this latest test, on a new worksheet, was identical. The hatch is one I created in the program, but I have tried one of the inbuilt ones and it does the same thing.  I can manually add the Hatch in the worksheet.

The only difference is selecting Patterned view - it works fine otherwise.
Is there something wrong in my steps for this to work?

EDIT:  I have just tried this again in a new blank project and the hatch transfers to the worksheet OK, so it is obviously something limited to this project that is causing the problem.  It is not the two doors side by side in my other post, as I deleted one and tried it again - still didn't work. Any suggestions?

Allan


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« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2012, 04:15:09 AM »

G'day Allan!
Here are the images relating to my post back there further . .
Note how the preview of the Redefine Smartview shows as Patterned View but once it's on the worksheet it's exactly as it was prior to my attempt to redefine it.
Is that what you're seeing?
Any chance you started the problem bld in 7.1? mine was . . .
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* Redefine preview.JPG (32.93 KB, 440x424 - viewed 2 times.)

* Redefine view OOPS.JPG (11.09 KB, 156x138 - viewed 1 times.)
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« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2012, 08:41:38 AM »

Hi Merv,

Yes that is what happens.
 
Model has hatch in patterned view
Smartview preview has hatch in patterened view
Worksheet drops the pattern and other elements on other locations.

I can't be sure  - it may have originally been 7.1.  When I do a new one in 7.2 it works OK.

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