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caullystone
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« on: January 13, 2012, 05:24:14 PM »

I do alot of old Stone Buildings - Houses and Barns with 600mm + thick walls.

They usually have a window width of say 1000mm and an inside opening of say 1600mm.

So there is a slope from the inside wall to the window frame on the right and left sides.

does that make sense?

If not i'll do a sketch
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« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2012, 07:10:38 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2012, 06:05:05 AM »

G'day Jon!
No matter how hard I try to think outside the square (or should that be "think on the taper") the best workaround I can think of utilizes sidelites hidden by columns - regular ones on the exterior & profiled columns inside. It'll necessitate some cleanup work in 2D but should look spot-on in 3D.
First I inserted the correct sized window - if it already has sidelites I'm up the creek  Cry
Once it's inserted, add sidelites equal in width to the taper in the reveals.
So I didn't have to rely on subtracting the window Frame Offset c + Frame Depth b from the overall wall width I adjusted c then inserted a 1:20 SmartView of the window & adjoining walls on a worksheet reserved for "scratching around but leaving a paper trail". I then dimensioned the relevant parts & set their value Scale to 0.2
In Element Manager, Columns add a new parametric column using Type = Custom
Select Profile, then add a new profile starting at a point so that you can use the Close option to create the non-ortho segment.
Make sure you create the profile in a clockwise direction. My first attempt was anticlockwise but when I pressed the Close button to create the non-ortho segment Env suggested "Note: Closing will cause a self-intersecting polygon" and refused to add the final segment.

Make certain you uncheck Uniform Scale & enter the overall dimensions dx1 & dy1
Insert the "column", adjust it's height, elevate as required then nudge it into position. Mirror it about the window centreline.
Add a suitably sized rectangular column externally & repeat
In 3D View use Materials Paintbrush to "paint" the external reveals. If it's a stone texture it's a mongrel trying to map them correctly!
Much easier if the internal tapered reveals are rendered finish.

After inserting hidden line or patterned SmartViews on worksheets there'll be quite a bit of cleanup work involved but . . .

hth
Merv

btw, let us know how it goes, especially if the openings have arched tops - that could be challenging!
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« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2012, 07:26:18 AM »

Merv

Wow

Many Thanks for that Idea - will give it a go for the bext barn conversion.

There are usually granite or brick quions around the windows so this method might solve that issue too.
The tapers vary from window to window so I might use an .3ds objects instead of a columns as I can add lintels above window in at same time?

Better than anything I had come up with.

Best I had done so far was to export wall as .3ds - boolean out the taper and export wall back in.
Real pain if you want to make changes.

Thanks

Jon
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